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Muddytaco
01-05-2008, 02:48 PM
We have comcast now for cable internet and digital cable but at&t rep came by the other day and said there installing there new fiber optic network in are neighborhood. After looking it over we signed up, its cheaper then comcast, we'll get more channels including 50 in HD but internet is DSL which i was kind of worried about. Its suppost to run up to 6.0 Mbps but I have my doubts on fast it will actually go.

Anybody here have this yet so I know what to expect?

The Pumper
01-05-2008, 02:51 PM
Well for the internet I wouldnt expect much if you're getting DSL. Its not very good, compared to roadrunner and such. Going from high speed to DSL sucks. Just be prepared if you had roadrunner or a high speed internet before this.

shunut
01-05-2008, 03:04 PM
I have Qwest DSL and it is plenty fast. I'm not sure what the speed rating is on it but I don't think its faster that 6.0 MBPS. I download music, programs and videos all the time and they download pretty fast. I think you'll be fine. What was your Comcast rated at?

I just ran a test on my computer and the download speed was 1511 kbps, so 1.5 mbps, upload was 878 kpbs. Which is typical, most ISP give you more download speed because we download more than we upload. They also usually rate their service on the download speed. I'm guessing if they tell you 6.0 mbps you'll be around 2-3 mbps in real life.

Its too bad that they won't give you an optical line for your computer, those are super fast.

Hossy
01-05-2008, 03:04 PM
I LOVE Comcast, I would never change

mr1 sniper
01-05-2008, 03:38 PM
i have verizon dsl and its 54 Mbps

bamf-hacker
01-05-2008, 03:47 PM
Fiber is good stuff much faster, than most cable connections and you will save a lot of money having it all together on one bill.

HelpDeskHustler
01-05-2008, 03:47 PM
i have verizon dsl and its 54 Mbps
wtf no way. I demand a www.speedtest.net to believe 54Mbps dsl


Fi-Os is awesome, if you're a gamer you'll love it. I've heard it gets speeds of up to 100Mbps (I get 5Mbps on time warner business class cable)

Muddytaco
01-05-2008, 03:54 PM
Just ran a speed test on comcast cable is 6334 kbps down and 378 kbps up

HelpDeskHustler
01-05-2008, 03:57 PM
Just ran a speed test on comcast cable is 6334 kbps down and 378 kbps up
5m was my guess, I reran it and came up with:

6900kbps down; 800kbps up.

54 dsl sounds impossible IMO. Verizon does have a Fi-os, and 54 for fi-os is about middle range.

durrell
01-05-2008, 04:03 PM
5m was my guess, I reran it and came up with:

6900kbps down; 800kbps up.

54 dsl sounds impossible IMO. Verizon does have a Fi-os, and 54 for fi-os is about middle range.
My guess is he hovered his wireless speed in his taskbar and said that's his link speed, or whatever it's called.

We have 3800kbps down; 380 up DSL from AT&T. It costs as much as RoadRunner and RR is 5000/512 here.. :crash:

DFSniper
01-05-2008, 04:06 PM
i have cable. with my wireless at 11mbps, i tested at 2420kbps down and 560kbps up... :( anything less than 5.5mbps and i cant play online games. i'll have to test my mom's pc and see how fast her wired internet is.

HelpDeskHustler
01-05-2008, 04:27 PM
i have cable. with my wireless at 11mbps, i tested at 2420kbps down and 560kbps up... :( anything less than 5.5mbps and i cant play online games. i'll have to test my mom's pc and see how fast her wired internet is.
for online games anything over 1m should be sufficient, but a slow upload speed (below .5m) will cause noticeable lag.

Hob Hayward
01-05-2008, 04:28 PM
I have Qwest DSL and it is plenty fast. I'm not sure what the speed rating is on it but I don't think its faster that 6.0 MBPS. I download music, programs and videos all the time and they download pretty fast. I think you'll be fine. What was your Comcast rated at?

I just ran a test on my computer and the download speed was 1511 kbps, so 1.5 mbps, upload was 878 kpbs. Which is typical, most ISP give you more download speed because we download more than we upload. They also usually rate their service on the download speed. I'm guessing if they tell you 6.0 mbps you'll be around 2-3 mbps in real life.

Its too bad that they won't give you an optical line for your computer, those are super fast.

Keep in mind, there is a BIGGG different between megabits/s and megabytes/s

All companies advertise their speed in bits, 1 bit being 1/8 of a byte (thus, 8 megabits is 1 megabyte), so your actual down speed is faster than 6 megabits/s (6megabits/8 being less than 1.5mbytesps). bits have relevance ONLY in advertised speed, your downloads will be in bytes, file sizes are in bytes, everything is in bytes other than ISP's advertisements. Lame, but eh, what can you do.

Btw, DSL can be just as fast as what comcast gives you.

TBH though, all of the companies suck. In general, one shouldn't think services is good because nothings gone wrong (yet), they tend not to help very much when things do go wrong. My friend has FIOS (Verizon's fiber), 15mbits/s its sooo nice :D.

If they didn;t suck though, they could have us all wired up with 54mbits/s, and charge $30/mo, look at Europe, Japan, Korea, etc.

HelpDeskHustler
01-05-2008, 04:51 PM
MB= MegaByte
Mb= Megabit

internet speed is almost always measured in bits.

vikingshadow
01-05-2008, 05:06 PM
I have SBC and it's a PITA right now. I think on my last wireless speedtest, it was around 3000-4000 kps down and 500 or so up... I'll have to run another one to be sure.

Here it is to the "recommended" test area: (BTW - Stillwater is more like 200 miles away, not 50.)
http://www.speedtest.net/result/218961984.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

This is to Dallas: (Try 5.5 hours and more like 400-500 miles away...) :rolleyes:
http://www.speedtest.net/result/218962266.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Yeah, go figure that we're paying for their FASTEST service. :( That's when it's actually working!

DFSniper
01-05-2008, 07:55 PM
for online games anything over 1m should be sufficient, but a slow upload speed (below .5m) will cause noticeable lag.
for Need for Speed games i get laggy connection, and for Battlefield, it wont connect to the main server if its only at 1 or 2 mbps... well, since it seems to be steady at 11-18 now, im gonna jump on :D

Opteron-O3
01-05-2008, 08:27 PM
Speed tests are different from actual download and uploads.
I was told as a rule of thumb to divide your speed test by 8 and that is your actual down/upload speed.

So if you get 8mb down from comcast, your actual download speed will only be 1mb.

shunut
01-05-2008, 09:39 PM
Keep in mind, there is a BIGGG different between megabits/s and megabytes/s

All companies advertise their speed in bits, 1 bit being 1/8 of a byte (thus, 8 megabits is 1 megabyte), so your actual down speed is faster than 6 megabits/s (6megabits/8 being less than 1.5mbytesps). bits have relevance ONLY in advertised speed, your downloads will be in bytes, file sizes are in bytes, everything is in bytes other than ISP's advertisements. Lame, but eh, what can you do.

Btw, DSL can be just as fast as what comcast gives you.

TBH though, all of the companies suck. In general, one shouldn't think services is good because nothings gone wrong (yet), they tend not to help very much when things do go wrong. My friend has FIOS (Verizon's fiber), 15mbits/s its sooo nice :D.

If they didn;t suck though, they could have us all wired up with 54mbits/s, and charge $30/mo, look at Europe, Japan, Korea, etc.

Why was I quoted on your response??? I just took 2 classes that went in detail with this stuff, I know what it all means, knew it before I took the class.

HelpDeskHustler
01-06-2008, 06:12 AM
Here it is to the "recommended" test area: (BTW - Stillwater is more like 200 miles away, not 50.)

This is to Dallas: (Try 5.5 hours and more like 400-500 miles away...) :rolleyes:

the internet tubes bypass space and time, it's not a dump truck, it doesn't just drive there :dodgy:

xsgmike66x
01-06-2008, 08:25 AM
i just did a speed test and i got 9017 download and 496 upload... im on road runner

mr1 sniper
01-06-2008, 09:13 AM
My guess is he hovered his wireless speed in his taskbar and said that's his link speed, or whatever it's called.
:o my bad lol

durrell
01-06-2008, 09:20 AM
:o my bad lol

No problem. Common mistake.

If you're curious, check out http://www.speedtest.net and let us know what your connection really is. :)

xsgmike66x
01-06-2008, 10:19 AM
i just did a speed test and i got 9017 download and 496 upload... im on road runner


when i did the test i got the 9017 and 496 but i did it a couple other times just to see if it was right and i keep getting in the mid to high 7000's with an upload rate of about the same around 480-500, why did i lose so much download in the matter of an hour or so?

durrell
01-06-2008, 11:37 AM
when i did the test i got the 9017 and 496 but i did it a couple other times just to see if it was right and i keep getting in the mid to high 7000's with an upload rate of about the same around 480-500, why did i lose so much download in the matter of an hour or so?

You're on cable, which means the more people that get on around you, the slower your connection is. I still wouldn't be complaining about high 7000's/480-500 up. :o

Opteron-O3
01-06-2008, 11:39 AM
Edited...

xsgmike66x
01-06-2008, 01:03 PM
You're on cable, which means the more people that get on around you, the slower your connection is. I still wouldn't be complaining about high 7000's/480-500 up. :o


not complaining just wondering...

08Lud08
01-06-2008, 05:21 PM
I really need to upgrade, this is the $20 dsl

http://www.speedtest.net/result/219291957.png (http://www.speedtest.net)