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stil
01-02-2008, 04:02 PM
Does anyone have a picture of the female variant attached to their MR1? I'm keen on the idea of NOT dealing with spikes of +/- 20 fps. I've had to dial waaay back from 300 and it's noticeable :(

Problem is, I have to get exactly the right regulator or I'm throwing money away (I'll have to get it imported from the states)

Lonus
01-02-2008, 05:21 PM
If you are thinking you want it mounted under the trigger frame then the female will work it will replace your asa. Palmers web site has a gallery you might try there. The MR1 frame has inline holes so you can get either the block or the ring mount for it and be all set.

Link to palmers gallery, there is a picture a spyder with a female under the grip, not an MR1, but a spyder.
http://www.palmer-pursuit.com/a1/faq/stab-setups.htm

I hope posting this link is ok.

pinkanese
01-02-2008, 05:35 PM
Look here (http://www.sundragonpps.com/paintball_mr_lp_conv.html)

stil
01-02-2008, 06:44 PM
Thanks guys.

Erlkonig
01-07-2008, 07:02 AM
What changes would I need to make if I were to use the female version with the ring mount? Would I need to get the macroline kit or would my existing line still work alright?

Also, it looks as though if you are going to use a gauge you HAVE to use the ring mount as the block mount doesn't allow for the gauge to be mounted. How crucial is the gauge? Does that show you the pressure feeding into the stabilizer, or the pressure being fed out of the stabilizer? If it is just the pressure going into the stabilizer I can see how that would be handy as you would get an idea if you would be looking at shoot down or something, but at the same point if the block mount is a much more secure mount and stands up better then I think that might be a better idea for the woodsballer crashing around the woods...

deano 177
01-19-2008, 05:21 PM
What changes would I need to make if I were to use the female version with the ring mount? Would I need to get the macroline kit or would my existing line still work alright?

Also, it looks as though if you are going to use a gauge you HAVE to use the ring mount as the block mount doesn't allow for the gauge to be mounted. How crucial is the gauge? Does that show you the pressure feeding into the stabilizer, or the pressure being fed out of the stabilizer? If it is just the pressure going into the stabilizer I can see how that would be handy as you would get an idea if you would be looking at shoot down or something, but at the same point if the block mount is a much more secure mount and stands up better then I think that might be a better idea for the woodsballer crashing around the woods...

I have just got a stabilizer and I am doing this mod to my mr1. I am going to try the ring mount first because I think I can buy that locally. I think that the block adapter does have a spot for the gauge. If you look at the block here (http://www.palmer-pursuit.com/images/Stab/block-mount-blk&nkl.jpg) and here (http://www.palmer-pursuit.com/online-catalog/stabilizer-female.htm) you can see that. As far as the line - your existing line wont work. It may be long enough but the threads arn't correct. I dont know if there is an adapter but I'm going to Lowes tomorrow to see. Here is the info on the palmer female adapter:

OD: 1.00"
Length: 4.26"
Output: 1/8" npt 27 female
Input: .825"-14 NGO female
Max input psi: 1500 (High pressure format 3000)
Psi out: 0-800
Weight: 4 oz

The output thread is what needs to be changed. Sundragon had at one point a metric to inch adapter but no longer seems to make/carry it. I'll report back on what I find.

deano 177
01-20-2008, 02:14 PM
Ok. I got mine mounted. I'll go over what I did and you guys can see how I turned chicken s#it into chicken salid.:D First I will say that this mod could be made a hell of a lot easier if you have the proper tools. It is not an easy mod, as far as some mods go, but the biggest thing is converting the Metric 10 X 1.25 threads to the standard US 1/8". If you can find this part you should have minimal trouble with the mod.

Things I bought at lowes for a combined price of $2.96:

1/8" MIP X Close (nipple, brass)
1/8" FIP (Coupling, brass)

Things I bought at Gander Mountain for the price of $14.96:

1" Scope rings. The ones that I bought are for a 7/8" weaver rail. If you could find some for a 3/8" rail they would probably work better and you would not have to cut them...

The Install:

This took me a total of about 4 hours. Shopping time included. Most of us know that the palmers have the standard thread and the spyders come with a metric thread. This was the most iffy part of the install. If it didn't work I figured I wouldn't lose much, just the part of the line that comes with the marker. If you take your hose apart it will be part that is beside #289 (http://www.spyder.tv/section/support/diagrams/mr1.pdf) on the diagram. This is the part of the hose that is metal and is threaded on both sides. Kind of like a close nipple but it has a place to put a wrench on it. I used a 3/8" bit to wallow out the 1/8" coupling that I bought. Then I took the o-ring off and put the coupling in the vice and screwed it in until it bottomed out. It was tough but it got done. I backed it out and put the o-ring back on it. I put it back in and then screwed the coupling to the nipple and then the nipple to the stabilizer. I used plumbing tape to seal the threads between the coupling, nipple and stabilizer.

The scope ring was a little challenging it's self. I took the set screw on the drop out and found a screw that fit. I think it is a 6/32" or an 8/32", so go figure. I drilled a hole in the ring to match the angle of the set screw and counter sunk it so the head would not interfere with the reg fitting in the ring. Once it was attatched I drilled another hole and tapped an allen head in for a set screw. this will keep the reg and tank from being wobbly or swing side to side.

I think if you get the scope rings with a 3/8" mount you may not have to do what I did and you should be able to attatch it to the drop just like mounting a scope. The drop has a v notch like a dove tail mount.

The finished product

After everything was tight and I did a final check I screwed the tank on. Psssssss! I had a leak! Lucky for me it was just an old tank o-ring and I changed it quickly.:D No leaks from any of the fittings and the marker fired well. I don't know what fps I'm firing but I'll report back later on that. The reg said that it is set up for 600psi and it seemed to be cycling well.

Here are some pics...

http://server.myspace-shack.com/d14/Palmers.jpg

http://server.myspace-shack.com/d14/Palmers_2.jpg

http://server.myspace-shack.com/d14/Palmers_3.jpg

http://server.myspace-shack.com/d14/Palmers_5.jpg

http://server.myspace-shack.com/d14/Palmers_6.jpg

stil
01-20-2008, 07:25 PM
Sweet!

The Communist
01-24-2008, 09:41 AM
how do you know it was set at 600psi without the gauge?

deano 177
01-24-2008, 11:01 AM
how do you know it was set at 600psi without the gauge? That's what the instructions said. I am having a hard time getting the fps dialed in. I got the reg wide open and am still only shooting 265 ish. Before I put it on I was barly able to get below 280fps. It was cold that day (40deg) so maybe that had something to do with it. I'll do some more testing tomorrow and see what I got. I havn't broken the reg in yet. It says to put 2K rnds throught the marker and then you should be good. I have had maybe 2 spikes of 274fps but thats with about 400rnds. I got the velocity adj screw turned in almost all the way. I think I'm gonna have to get a new spring.

The Communist
01-24-2008, 12:18 PM
my stock spring wouldn't go under 325-350fps...want me to mail to ya haha

deano 177
01-24-2008, 02:23 PM
my stock spring wouldn't go under 325-350fps...want me to mail to ya haha No, thats ok.:D I shot it today and It was up over 310fps. So now I have it dialed in at 280fps. As I put more air through the regulator it should get broken in. The only problem now is that I have a brand new VS3 that needs to be played with!:p