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xSoulsx
12-17-2007, 02:15 PM
Ok, I have picked the Proto Matrix Rail..

One more question should I buy the regular PMR or spend the extra $25 and get the PMR Special edition?

Whats different other than the looks and the barrel, feedneck, trigger, trigger guard ,and so on?

The Pumper
12-17-2007, 02:18 PM
I wouldnt spend the extra 25 bucks unless you wanted to sound cool and say you had the PMR SE.

xSoulsx
12-17-2007, 02:20 PM
Hmmm..

10 points for the extra fast post!

SupaSnipa
12-17-2007, 02:23 PM
I say, go for it. The extra $25 makes it look cool AND replace the plastic parts

LostCause
12-17-2007, 02:29 PM
eh....you would pay for it later no? so why not? and doesnt it come with a 2 piece barrel?

chnk
12-17-2007, 02:30 PM
i say go for it, you're probably gonna spend an extra $15-$25 anyways for a new trigger, or just replacing the plastic parts

DFSniper
12-17-2007, 02:34 PM
theres someone in b/s/t selling a fairly new PMR SE i think...

i would go with the SE because its not plastic. think of the guns that are crap that are plastic *cough* BE, JT, Ion *cough* plus, ive had bad experiences with plastic guns stripping threads...

The Pumper
12-17-2007, 02:38 PM
I guess its PMR SE ruled voer the PMR.

DFSniper <3 the ignorance. ;)

xSoulsx
12-17-2007, 02:53 PM
[QUOTE=DFSniper]theres someone in b/s/t selling a fairly new PMR SE i think...
[QUOTE]

Thanks. But i am looking to buy one brand new

xsvly-fat
12-17-2007, 03:13 PM
yeah its worth the extra $25 you get better parts and they look cooler =)

Hob Hayward
12-17-2007, 05:23 PM
The metal back cap is one reason to go for the SE.

Other than that, the other metal parts are just a bonus as I've heard they work fine.

LostCause
12-17-2007, 05:29 PM
im not going to lie, ions arent crap, i have shot my firends ion a lot(though i still prefer my piolt acs, just because i like the metal :D) though i have put it to the test, through speedball and diving, and through woodball game where i dive land in mud. Pretty sturdy...though jt/be guns are just crap.....

imo though....though eah there own :D

PMR>Spyder vs2 > SP Ion>be/jt

^^bad math or is that ok?

vikingshadow
12-18-2007, 03:35 AM
theres someone in b/s/t selling a fairly new PMR SE i think...

i would go with the SE because its not plastic. think of the guns that are crap that are plastic *cough* BE, JT, Ion *cough* plus, ive had bad experiences with plastic guns stripping threads...

I usually stay out of these discussions because it's all opinion normally, but in this case, you're joking right? There is nothing "crap" about the composite parts on the PMR. It's tough and isn't going to break unless you enjoy using your gun as a sledge hammer. I seriously doubt the back cap even would screw up that much if it weren't for kids overtightening or putting too much lube on the threading. Of course, it's one of the first things I replaced on mine because I had money to burn, so I can't really vouch for that.

The BE and JT aren't even in the same class as the PMR, and the Ion has proven to be a tough little gun over and over and over.

Ok, since I'm here anyways, go with the PMR SE. Only because the cost of the parts you would buy to replace are worth more than the 25 bucks extra on the SE. The barrel alone, then the back cap would cost nearly 4 times that amount, then add the trigger, feedneck cover and eye covers, well you get the picture.

I wish it had cost this much when I got my PMR. Still burning over it!

DFSniper
12-18-2007, 07:20 AM
I usually stay out of these discussions because it's all opinion normally, but in this case, you're joking right? There is nothing "crap" about the composite parts on the PMR.
well, i was half-joking. my talons pump arm broke off in the middle of a game and my eradicator's detent screw stripped and the trigger snapped in half (the part where the return spring sits) when my brother was holding it...

and i hadnt seen any ion-bashing in a while :p

Ace24
12-19-2007, 04:57 PM
theres someone in b/s/t selling a fairly new PMR SE i think...

i would go with the SE because its not plastic. think of the guns that are crap that are plastic *cough* BE, JT, Ion *cough* plus, ive had bad experiences with plastic guns stripping threads...
ION isn't really crap... :dodgy: Only composite part is the body. Whoopie doo. The stupid composite collar on the feedneck of the PMR breaks the day you get it under normal play. You tighten it down and then play a game... oh but look, someone shot you in your feedneck. OH NOES, IT CRACKED!! YOUR FEEDNECK IS NOW USELESS! :dodgy:

PMR SE w/ UL Frame.

(The only reason I flame it, is because I've seen it. We have a lot of PMR's at the field and the collar is ALWAYS the first thing to go. Possibly it's over tightened... but I've seen them shatter when hit directly by a ball going 250-260FPS.

...I've also seen/saw the other day, a VLocity shell obliterate right at the screw point of the battery door when hit at 260ish FPS. Funny stuff)

timmyshoota
12-19-2007, 05:14 PM
Thanks. But i am looking to buy one brand new

Thats my old PMR. I used it twice. Total of 2 hoppers and 4 pods went through it, and then I sold it to Tim, who has not used it and is now selling it. Its practically brand new, comes in the original packaging and all the stuff that comes with it from the factory. You will save yourself a good deal of money and not be disappointed.

Edit: Actually, I think he sold it, but PM him to be sure.

bigred76
12-20-2007, 12:48 AM
Yup, I traded it over to Hob. :) I loved its feel, and only took it out to dink around in the backyard.

I know what you mean, Vike... :( I got my PMR SE for $350 when they were still $500, and I thought I was getting a killer deal. Here I am six months later selling it for a hundred bucks less than what I got it for... :cry:

applesauce
12-22-2007, 12:08 PM
Do It!!!!

xSoulsx
12-23-2007, 02:18 PM
Its coming should be here Wendnesday or Thursday....

Hossy
12-23-2007, 02:46 PM
cool! get pics and a vid!

xSoulsx
12-24-2007, 01:17 PM
cool! get pics and a vid!


Ok, I see what i can do when i get it

xSoulsx
12-26-2007, 01:29 PM
Actionvillage just sent it out today because of their holiday schedule so Ill have it Friday...