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LostCause
12-05-2007, 12:42 PM
Should i get the
http://www.firstcallpaintball.com/pages-productinfo/category-2795_3438_3947/product-4901/paintball-barrels-and-acc-barrel-kits-evil-products-evil-evil-pipe-barrel-spyder.html?zenid=a943a8c213243c0431b19cc561f33b24
^^ Evil pipe kit 4 piece spyder kit (Blue tip 14 inch)

OR

http://www.firstcallpaintball.com/pages-productinfo/category-2795_3427_3436_3698/product-7498/paintball-barrels-and-acc-2-piece-barrels-spyder-j-and-j-performance-j-and-j-precision-j-and-j-s2-barrel-spyder-14in.html?zenid=405ad7f8f04655158f46d27ed9f3a7c2
J&J S2 cermainc barrel

The Pumper
12-05-2007, 12:47 PM
1st link doesnt work but I'd go with the J+J.

SupaSnipa
12-05-2007, 12:56 PM
I say goo with the Evil Pipe because it is a kit, never tried the J&J S2 but the Pipe is a pretty good barrel

LostCause
12-05-2007, 01:05 PM
1st link is up, so what do yall think (and is the first one a kit? cause it 's only 17.99 when the full kit is 49.99 i think)

The Pumper
12-05-2007, 01:06 PM
1st link is up, so what do yall think (and is the first one a kit? cause it 's only 17.99 when the full kit is 49.99 i think)you put 4pc barrel in the 1st post.

but I still say J+J.

LostCause
12-05-2007, 01:19 PM
i was looking at it, and i've nver shot a j&j and i was just wondering which was better.

SupaSnipa
12-05-2007, 02:20 PM
oh m,y bad, i only thought that is because i remember seeing the evil pipe kit there

Kenny_McCormic
12-05-2007, 03:05 PM
Thats not a 4 piece kit its a front and one back of your choice.

LostCause
12-05-2007, 03:05 PM
ah, got ya, thats what was confusing me, so do you think its better? or no?

HeadShot
12-05-2007, 06:39 PM
I have a j&j edge eleit kit. I chose the J&J over Evil's pipe kit because over all they are a better built barrel.

-Teflon cermamic coated Aircraft grade aluminum.
-they also are self cleaning, if you break a ball in the barrel the next shot after cleans it out.
-Very very much lighter than the pipe IMO

there's also some downs like the finish scratches easily, and because they're so light they are also some what fragile.

all in all I would say go with the J&J . you'll get alot more accuracy from it. pluss the warrenty is realy good on them also.

NeedForSpeed
12-08-2007, 01:25 PM
I havn't heard many good things about Evil barrels but only godo things about J & J. I'd personally go for something different altogether but if your on a budget the J & J is fine. I'd spend a little bit more though for a barrel kit.
Although I personall would never buy a Freak, they're great for people with a low budget. YOu can get a used kit for about $50 now.

LostCause
12-08-2007, 03:59 PM
yeah right now im on a budget (just trying to get some ups for my piolt while saving for a new gun) CAuse my piolt is solid, i have the occasionaly problem but it still is nice. and i went a lil over with the Vlocity jr....but that was worth every penny :D lol

also my bro loves wacthing me play, so once the team im trying(very hard...kinda hard with gas prices though :() to save some money for the practices and tourneys. Thanks for the advice yall. REally apprecaite how helpfull yall been!

LostCause
12-10-2007, 05:45 PM
i was looking through bolts (way future up though) what do you think of this one for my piolt acs
http://www.actionvillage.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/DisplayProductInformation-Start;sid=tST_XHCW0ID_1DfLX2c_9HpCfG6_aKnc_Ww=?Pro ductID=LOCsFAY7PvIAAAD3iOWlA_2s
Shocktech Spyder SuperFly Long Bolt

SpyderMan723
12-11-2007, 01:28 PM
i was looking through bolts (way future up though) what do you think of this one for my piolt acs
http://www.actionvillage.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/DisplayProductInformation-Start;sid=tST_XHCW0ID_1DfLX2c_9HpCfG6_aKnc_Ww=?Pro ductID=LOCsFAY7PvIAAAD3iOWlA_2s
Shocktech Spyder SuperFly Long Bolt

i dont think that bolt is compatible w/ your pilot.

its for rear cocking, like spyder xtra

Kenny_McCormic
12-11-2007, 01:40 PM
That bolt will work but i would recommend you go with something with orings like a ACP 3 oring.

LostCause
12-25-2007, 08:58 AM
http://www.actionvillage.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/DisplayProductInformation-Start;sid=zsyFDY0FwHGF-Mp0-1xFpYej3A6MEY3bId4=?ProductID=IFvAqArbRQkAAAEWjg3M whvc

you think they would have that size screw at homedepot (still checking my local pro shop just in case)

Accidentaly haave it almost striped...(dumb thing was almost striped when i got it :()

DriverJ
12-28-2007, 11:18 AM
i dont think that bolt is compatible w/ your pilot.

its for rear cocking, like spyder xtra

the bolt that works in the xtra will work in the pilot. I know, cause I've tried :P

pbfreak555
12-28-2007, 04:19 PM
pipe kit. more bore sizes and they look better anyways

xsvly-fat
12-28-2007, 07:02 PM
i like the J&J but i've never used the pipe.