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paintballkid0206
09-26-2007, 01:25 PM
I was thinking about how to mad my mr-1 into a pump. i heard that you have to half-back it, mod the striker, and get a pump kit. does anyone have easy-to-follow steps on how to do this. i also need a list of tools and what pump kit(s) that will work. thanks!

oldironmudder
09-26-2007, 03:17 PM
Turning any Spyder into a pump has the same basic steps. IIRC the stock goes into the upper tube so you would have to cut a slot in it or hook the cocking rod to the pin.

Disconnect the bolt & striker but leave it where the bolt to where it will still recock the striker.

Mod the valve or get one made for non blowback.

paintballkid0206
09-27-2007, 05:40 PM
not very helpful... it's my first time and i need to know more specific instructions. anyone else??

Kenny_McCormic
09-28-2007, 04:30 PM
You cant do the conversion without a fiber cut off disk its the only thing that will cut the striker, drills just mar the finish.

paintballkid0206
09-29-2007, 07:36 AM
ok... oprtation aborted. i dont have the tools, or the money to buy them. and my dad prolly wont let me anyway.

Nenkitsune
10-27-2007, 11:03 PM
actually a dremel with the metal cutoff wheels works GREAT (the fiber wheels i think they are anyways)

bamf-hacker
10-28-2007, 02:46 AM
Best way to pump a Spyder..... Get a Hammer ;)

For real, other than the fun of modding get a Hammer that is a pump Spyder to begin with.

paintballkid0206
10-28-2007, 08:15 AM
how much are they and where is a good place to get one? i was looking into a Phantom, but they are SUPER expensive. can anyone compare a phantom and the Hammer on a pros and cons list for me?

slim and shady
10-28-2007, 08:27 AM
I use a Trracer pump as a backup if something should happen to my MR2, unfortinatly they dont make them anymore but if you could find one get it! these guns are prettywell undestructible. I really like it anyway. You dont need to get a phantom they are great guns but like you said way up there, there are alot of lower end pumps that you can get and have alot of fun with. Im not sure about the hammer though cant help you there.

paintballkid0206
10-28-2007, 09:20 AM
i was looking for a Trracer before, but i couldn't find a place to get one. also, what does the Hammer look like. i would like something that's rock'n'cock.

oldironmudder
10-28-2007, 09:31 AM
IIRC the Hammer 1 was like a phantom with rock & cock. the hammer 2 was a stacked tube but I dont remember which design it was based off of.

newkid
10-28-2007, 09:59 AM
man I havnt seen a hammer around here in ages

paintballkid0206
10-28-2007, 10:29 AM
PICS PICS PICS! please.

oldironmudder
10-28-2007, 10:36 AM
Check PBR under pump markers then look under older stuff.

newkid
10-28-2007, 10:59 AM
http://spyder.tv/forums/showthread.php?t=1047 there is a pic of a hammer plus

paintballkid0206
10-28-2007, 12:33 PM
thank you

oldironmudder
10-28-2007, 03:47 PM
http://haveblue.org/chrismader/scanned%20items/kingman_flamed_broiled.jpg

http://haveblue.org/chrismader/scanned%20items/kingman_hammer-ii.jpg

http://haveblue.org/chrismader/scanned%20items/kingman_hammer_series.jpg

newkid
10-28-2007, 04:14 PM
so the hammer III is the only spyder singletube semi-auto

oldironmudder
10-28-2007, 04:16 PM
Yes unless there is some prototype stuff that got scrapped.

paintballkid0206
10-28-2007, 04:46 PM
i'm now looking at the Hammer Plus, A, P, and II. i take it that they're all back-bottle. any suggestions on which to get. the hammer A and P looks vewry similar. what are the differences? thanks A LOT for the help guys. i really appreciate it. One more queswtion (for now. lol). Are they all still being made, or are some of them out of production?

oldironmudder
10-28-2007, 04:58 PM
A & P are the same besides the air source. One is 12 gram & other is tank.

II is rear ASA on the lower tube. I dont recall those being put into mass production.

paintballkid0206
10-29-2007, 04:13 PM
what about the plus?

oldironmudder
10-29-2007, 05:53 PM
I guess a bit better than A.

paintballkid0206
11-01-2007, 03:54 PM
okay. i'm gonna do a little bit more research and make my final decision in about 2 weeks and then change my mind in a month. lol. actually, i think i'm gonna stay with a hammer as my next purchase(unless i hear a lot of negative comments about it)

DFSniper
11-01-2007, 06:16 PM
check ebay. i remember a while back there was a guy with 15 hammers BNIB!! and they were selling for about $50 each! all this talk makes me want to get one now...

pinkanese
11-05-2007, 11:42 AM
i got my Hammer Plus (at least I think its a plus) for liek $35 of PBR. Of course I have also built a Spump so I have a nice collection of Kingman pumps started. Good luck finding one they are a lot of fun.