View Full Version : Gun Fight #2 : Assault Rifles

09-11-2007, 02:24 PM
Hi! here's the Guy Fight #8 sequel.
The poll is now named Gun Fight because we lost count of the guy fight numbers..
There are too many rifles to poll each one of them so i separated them in various types of rifles. Vote for the type of rifle you prefer, even if it is only for one particular gun in the group. If i forgot to post a gun , please dont storm me, i will add it in the group where it belong.

The categories are:

1- M-16 and variants
Includes: M-16, M4 , AR15, AR18, AR70, C7, H&K 416.

2- AK47 and variants
Includes: AK47, AK74, AK101, Type 56.

3- Other Heavy Assault 7.62 caliber
Includes: H&K G3, FN FAL

4- Other Light Assault 5.56 caliber
Includes: FN FNC, Howa T89, Galil, Sig 550 series.

5- Bullpup Assault Rifles
Includes: Steyr AUG, FAMAS, L85A1

6- CQB Bullpup Rifles
Includes: FN F2000, Type 95, Tavor.

7- Modern Warfare
Includes: Scar-L, XM-8, G36

8- Oldies
Includes: STG-44, M14

09-11-2007, 02:28 PM
I voted for the steyr aug in Bullpup assault.

VS3 Sniper
09-11-2007, 02:51 PM
I voted for the ak47 those guns are unstopable.

09-11-2007, 03:02 PM
kalashnikov ftmfw!

09-11-2007, 03:33 PM
i voted oldies..specifically the M14.....i like the aks but they are slopily made and havent had any technalogical advantages really in the decade....plus my dad swat team uses the m14 with a bipod to shoot through brush and that thing is SWEET!

09-11-2007, 04:03 PM
m-tar21 + fn fs2000 ftw

cqb bullpup ftw.

09-11-2007, 05:40 PM
i have a thing for bullups...

09-11-2007, 06:03 PM
i have a thing for bullups...
word. i'd do

bullpup "cqb" (btw the mtar is known to be easier to shoot long range than an m4)
bullpup rifles
modern warfare
m16 variants
7.62/55.6 variants... basically all the ones pictured are prettier AK-47 variants BTW

09-13-2007, 08:12 PM
Isn't the F-90 a CQB?

09-13-2007, 10:24 PM
Did you mean the FN P-90 ?
If yes, this gun is the first one to get the PDW title, then is more an smg than an assault rifle. Youll see it in Gun Fight #3 Submachineguns

09-14-2007, 06:39 AM
The TAVOR rocks!

09-15-2007, 07:56 PM
i voted m16 and other variants. i love the new Sig556 with the air assisted recocking.

09-17-2007, 04:14 PM
bullpups looks just akward imo

10-08-2007, 01:48 PM
Anything that isnt a .22 idk what they were on when it was decided a small-medium game round would work good for killing men.

10-08-2007, 02:55 PM
Anything that isnt a .22 idk what they were on when it was decided a small-medium game round would work good for killing men.
If you're referring to the 5.56, then you are sadly misunderstanding the usage of the 5.56. By design, it fragments upon impact, causing a small wound for doctors to work with, but masses of damage internally.

10-08-2007, 08:15 PM
This poll got closed before I could vote but I will put my Yugo folder AK47 up against the lot!!!!

10-09-2007, 05:25 PM
I would have voted for #'s 2 as a common 'battle' rifle or 3 as 'special services' rifle.

I have (or have had) 2 varients of AR-one in .223 and one in .308 and 3 of the AK/varients, not icluding my Dragunov.

The ARs are too light and jam too quickly when dirty. The bullets 'keyhole' on paper and thus, will happen in the body. That is what makes the .223 so effective, it's 'bouncing' around in the body. The .308 is about the same as the 7.62 and is better suited for distance shooting. Still, the AR family of guns make it that you have to do constant maintenence to keep them running. Sure you can carry more ammo ihnto battle...but that's negated by the fact you are constantly cleaning it....

The AKs are just freaking work horses. My one rifle has (no lie) almost 100 cases of ammo through it (10,000 rounds) and it has never been cleaned. I'm trying to see at what round it will finally "jam" and it hasn't done it yet.

The Dragunov is based upon and is a modified AK and is the "sniper" and anti tank version from yester-year. The 7.62 x 54 is about the same as a .308 and with the right projectile, makes a way bigger hole than the .223...which is harder to patch because there is "material" missing...not just "torn apart" like a tumbling round....

10-17-2007, 07:17 PM
aww I missed this.. anyway I would have voted ak because when you pull the trigger you know its going to shoot

10-18-2007, 03:29 AM
aww I missed this.. anyway I would have voted ak because when you pull the trigger you know its going to shoot
That brings up the philosophical question... is it better to shoot, or to hit?

10-18-2007, 01:17 PM
AK was only designed to be effective to 200 yards at that distance one will hit a man sized target in the first shot.

10-18-2007, 08:42 PM
Then please explain to me, why the graduations on the rear sight are marked 1-10...each number being for 100 meters?...and then explain to me how it is...that I can repeatedly put round on top of round out to 500 yards (The longest distance I've shot with it)?

The "man-sized target" thing was US Military propaganda, used to instill confidence in young-buck troops that knew what a .30 cal bullet does when it hits a body. While they are pushing out the M1 Garands, M14s and other .30 cal weapons, in favor of the 5.56 (.223 cal) because they were cheaper to produce and thus, buy.

The stock AK is definately more accurate than people are led to believe. The front post sight adjusts both vertically and horizontally. The back sight adjusts vertically and a tad bit horizontally. Granted, not as easily as the AR series of rifles...but it does and is more effective than people think.

10-20-2007, 06:55 PM
Do you have a milled or stamped AK? I hear the milled ones are more acurate.