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omg im vi3t
02-05-2006, 06:46 PM
hey guys. i have a xtra 05 with a rocking trigger on it and thats all. i want to use hpa and my friend said that i need a new reg, but i dont know wat should i upgrade to use hpa on my gun with its full performance. plez help me
02-05-2006, 06:53 PM
well you can eithert stay high pressure with ur gun or you can go LP. going LP is much more expensive because u have to mod/buy new parts for ur gun. But stayign HP would mean just screwing in the HPA tank and go. no upgrades needed for you to go HP.
here a link to going LP and some guides.
LP FAQ (http://www.ottersccustoms.com/lp.html)
Project LP (http://www.ottersccustoms.com/project.html)
02-05-2006, 07:12 PM
Ok, he's talking about getting a High Pressure tank for his gun. :rolleyes: Or at least i think that's what he's saying.
HPA is the best thing you can do for your gun. The tank itself has a regulator on it, so you really don't need a reg yet. It will help you regulate your gun better, but just to clear things up for ya....Your gun, as it is now, is designed to shoot at around 850 psi. The output of a HPA tank is about 800 psi. (If you get a low pressure tank, it'll be set around 450 psi - you don't want that for your spyder!)
Compressed air (HPA) is cleaner and will not hurt the internals of your gun. It's an awesome upgrade IF you have the capability to get it refilled.
02-05-2006, 07:25 PM
You don't need to buy anything to use HPA... just get a high pressure tank and you're set!
02-05-2006, 07:31 PM
Oh, yeah. Forgot to add that! Phil's got my back....
omg im vi3t
02-05-2006, 07:59 PM
wait y do u need to buy a HP tank for i thought all spyder comes stanard with hp already and lp is when u have to upgrade it.
02-05-2006, 08:06 PM
a stoc spyder runs at abot 850 psi (as said above) this is called HP (because it runs at a HIG PRESSURE) when you upgrade your gun you can get it running at about 300 psi this is LP (because it is running at a LOW PRESSURE).
A HPA tank has a reg on it which puts out about 800 psi (which is a high pressure). an HPA tank is much better than a CO2 tank, it doesnt mean that ur gun is HP, people have there guns running at 300 psi with an HPA tank on it.
if you buy an HPA tank (compressed air tank) you will notice a big differenc with your gun performance, and you can use the tank when u havefully upgrade your marker to make it LP.
do that explain it?
omg im vi3t
02-05-2006, 08:41 PM
ya kind of but i dont now wat to get to change it to Lp can u aim me at omg im vi3t. thank you
02-05-2006, 09:18 PM
aight ill giv u links and everythign casuse im a PIMP like that
* AKA Lightening Bolt (the one on the bottom) (http://www.akalmp.com/lightning.htm)
* Palmer Male Stabilizer (http://www.800paintball.com/Shop/Control/Product/fp/vpid/1460476/vpcsid/0/SFV/30363)
* CheckIt 15* VA (http://www.anythingxtreme.com/Check-It-Products-Spyder-15-Degree-Assault-Block-Kits-P3154C1618.aspx?AFID=21)
* AKA Tornado Valve (http://www.doropaintball.com/Newstoredev/shopexd.asp?id=8762) or Rocket Valve (http://www.paintballgi.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=24)
* Insane Pain - Nightstriker (http://insanepainsports.com/page2.html)
* 32degrees Spring Kit (http://www.anythingxtreme.com/32-Degrees-Spyder-9-Piece-Spring-Kits-P3361C1619.aspx?AFID=21)
These products are all for the person who wants to fully up there marker. a little bit expensive. im sure someone will leade u in a more cheaper direction but this is wut u want if u want mega LP
02-06-2006, 04:39 AM
Really the best thing you can do is read Otter's site thoroughly. He has put together a great list/how to on making a LP Spyder. He goes through different parts and their performance and even has a few recommendations for LP on a budget. After you read that if you still have questions by all means ask them here.
Project LP on OtterSC Customs (http://www.ottersccustoms.com/project.html)
02-06-2006, 04:51 AM
Since we've clarified that a spyder is a high pressure gun, and what a high pressure air tank, thought I'd say something myself. You have to decide if you want your gun to run at low pressures (which may or may not cause problems because a spyder really isn't designed for low pressure operation.) It's not something you can just do halfway and then gripe because your gun isn't working right.
I got my spyder running at a very low pressure, shooting approx 285 fps at 190-200 psi in the gun. Very consitant and got about 2000-2100 shots out of my 20 oz Co2 (anti-syphoned, of course) tank.
All that without the exact things mentioned in the above post. Do your research, look around, and remember it takes a lot of time to do this. You can't just slap parts on your gun and call it low pressure. You have to mess with it...it's gonna take some work.
02-06-2006, 05:59 PM
This year's project......
1. Buy a MR2
2. Rig it for LP :)
02-06-2006, 07:13 PM
I got bitten by the LP bug when I first got my Spyder Flash back in 2001. I got upgraded it w/
I mean I put a ton of money in this thing and I got it down to about 250 PSI and in the end I really didn't care about the LP thing I just had one pimp marker! I mean I got a ton of shots per tank and it was quiet as can be. But I wouldn't recomend doing it all at once. You need to buy each part individually and try it out after each upgrade. This is so that if it starts messing up you know which part is not working right. If you do it all at once and it stops working, your gonna be trouble shooting for a long time :(
02-06-2006, 08:01 PM
I have my LP Spyder right where I want her. :D Specs:
Marker: Spyder Imagine
Barrel: 12" CP 2 Peice
Feedneck: CIP clamping
V/A: 15* High-Flow Assault Block and 600psi Planet Eclipse gauge
Regulator: Bob Long Torpedo
Drop Forward/ASA: North West (NW) Drop forward with on/off and DYE 1,500psi gauge
Trigger Frame: ESP 3.0 with custom-made trigger, Dye Sticky 3s, and 50g switch
Internals: Otterized bolt and striker (polished and venturi removed), stock valve
Air System: Pure Energy 48/3k HPA tank
Operating Pressure: 220psi@275fps
omg im vi3t
02-06-2006, 09:17 PM
im broke on a tight tight budget
omg im vi3t
02-06-2006, 09:26 PM
do any of you guys have parts for sale right now
02-07-2006, 04:23 PM
Since your broke, the best performance to dollar upgrade you can get is a good J&J barrel.
02-07-2006, 07:39 PM
hmm ... you really don't need any of those ... you should just plug and play ... just get a new feedneck, and barrel