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druid
08-06-2007, 02:06 AM
I'm going to be seriously PISSED OFF :mad:

http://www.warpig.com/linkout.cgi?http://www.barragebarrel.com

I get shot with it...and I'll turn it into an $80 suppository....:mad: :mad:

Paintballadict18
08-06-2007, 03:16 AM
if i ever see someone sneek in the game with that im running away!

bamf-hacker
08-06-2007, 04:11 AM
That is not even close to funny. it looks too much like a standard barrel and I am sure a ref would not second guess it at first glance.

PB goggles are not rated to prevent metal BBs from breaking the lense.

newkid
08-06-2007, 05:12 AM
for 80 bucks, I'll just buy a bb gun instead

Ace24
08-06-2007, 05:21 AM
for 80 bucks, I'll just buy a bb gun instead
Yeah no kidding.

Thats retarded.

Elfmaze
08-06-2007, 06:10 AM
im not too worried about it being used in game. BUT it makes it way too accessable for every 15 year old kid with a paintball marker to be able to fire more destructive ammo.

Could be very destructive to paintball the same way that shooting up someones house is.


That being said i think its a pretty cool idea

HelpDeskHustler
08-06-2007, 06:19 AM
i'd lol if you buy it, then screw it into your gun only to find out that your threads are different and that the "hopper" ends up on the bottom of the barrel. BTW... who uses 1.7mm bbs?

newkid
08-06-2007, 06:26 AM
i'd lol if you buy it, then screw it into your gun only to find out that your threads are different and that the "hopper" ends up on the bottom of the barrel. BTW... who uses 1.7mm bbs?
i thought the same thing about the hopper, 1.77 is bb gun BBs I do belive

HelpDeskHustler
08-06-2007, 06:31 AM
i thought the same thing about the hopper, 1.77 is bb gun BBs I do belive
i think they were insinuating you save money on paint by buying bb-paintballs. which come in 6mm.

newkid
08-06-2007, 07:04 AM
i think they were insinuating you save money on paint by buying bb-paintballs. which come in 6mm.

it says "sling STEEL with your paintball marker!"

vikingshadow
08-06-2007, 07:06 AM
People ***** about Smart Parts only being in it to make money, but at least they don't produce items that would physically hurt someone. Where's the outrage over this product?

WHAT company in their RIGHT mind says, "Hey, let's sell something to shoot STEEL balls at someone!" Their own advertisement says, "Don't Paint, shred!"

Someone shoots me with that, I'll bend it over their heads, then call the cops to arrest me of assault and him for attempted assault....

newkid
08-06-2007, 07:14 AM
People ***** about Smart Parts only being in it to make money, but at least they don't produce items that would physically hurt someone. Where's the outrage over this product?

WHAT company in their RIGHT mind says, "Hey, let's sell something to shoot STEEL balls at someone!" Their own advertisement says, "Don't Paint, shred!"

Someone shoots me with that, I'll bend it over their heads, then call the cops to arrest me of assault and him for attempted assault....
I think that it is meant for target practice only... it says "50 can shredding shots for 10 cents" but I can see people get mistaken and think of using it for paintball

vikingshadow
08-06-2007, 07:18 AM
Oh, yeah. That's going to keep people from using it on the field. :rolleyes:

And who would practice with a little STEEL BB? It won't even come close to moving like a paintball. No, this is a way for the gangster kiddos to say, "Ooooo, I'm going to **** you up, *****!" and the company to make some money making the sport move from the current situation into a more dangerous one...

HelpDeskHustler
08-06-2007, 07:23 AM
send a letter

Paintballadict18
08-06-2007, 07:28 AM
now destructive people who get there hands on this could tear up public property and make people think negativly on pb


*EDIT* 100th post woohoo yippyde doo daa hip hip hooray!

Oscum Guy
08-06-2007, 07:31 AM
im not too worried about it being used in game. BUT it makes it way too accessable for every 15 year old kid with a paintball marker to be able to fire more destructive ammo.

Could be very destructive to paintball the same way that shooting up someones house is.


That being said i think its a pretty cool idea
racist.



but i agree it would be kinda cool to just like shoot around at cans.


AND i would shoot pepsi can NOT coke cans.

Paintballadict18
08-06-2007, 07:33 AM
racist.



but i agree it would be kinda cool to just like shoot around at cans.


AND i would shoot pepsi can NOT coke cans.


wouldnt be agist??? uhhh nvm

Oscum Guy
08-06-2007, 07:36 AM
wouldnt be agist??? uhhh nvm
i dont get that special feeling of "i pwn u" when i say agist. i dont know its wierd.

Paintballadict18
08-06-2007, 07:38 AM
i dont get that special feeling of "i pwn u" when i say agist. i dont know its wierd.

whatever floats ur boat dude

TimVanNormal
08-06-2007, 08:00 AM
I want to go kill myself....now..
If I saw that thing, I'd tear it off ANY gun so quick.

Paintballadict18
08-06-2007, 08:05 AM
I want to go kill myself....now..
If I saw that thing, I'd tear it off ANY gun so quick.

death is not the answer and ud have to screw it off unless ur really mad then u can rip right threw the threads

LostCause
08-06-2007, 08:39 AM
what moron came up with that idea......

Paintballadict18
08-06-2007, 08:46 AM
some idiot whos gonna get sued for injurys and what not im no lawyer but they can sue the company for stuff like that right? or is it on the person who uses it

Elfmaze
08-06-2007, 09:27 AM
Its just like any other gun as far as responsability goes, as was previously stated, i could go to walmart and buy a BB gun.

What is the potential for an airsoft crossover product though? And besides the bounce backs. i could see this for temporary solution to learn how to work my fingers faster. BUT i don't know that the bb's will keep up with the fire rate... ultimatly i guess you could make something like this with and old Stock barrel and a 6mm metal tube.

Correction: they also make a 6mm airsoft barrel. Thats kinda cool

calebh
08-06-2007, 09:46 AM
it's a cool idea. i mean, shooting BBs at a can at 15 bps (or bbps?) sounds kinda cool. it would rip the thing to shreds. but some idiot would want to play games with it. or shoot out someone's window with it. cool idea, but it's totally going to be misused.

STRIKEFIRST
08-06-2007, 09:57 AM
Wow a potential full auto bb gun...thanks for helping to destroy our sport.

Tito=PBL
08-06-2007, 10:55 AM
that would stink to get shot with it!!!!

Paintballadict18
08-06-2007, 11:02 AM
heck yea

druid
08-06-2007, 11:49 AM
firing a .177 cal BB...steel or copper...is going to have SERIOUS affects on the target.

If it were just a matter of target shooting (like those full auto models at carnivals) and shooting out the "star" on a paper target...then it's a great thing. Taking out annoying pests like squirrels, bats and the occasional stray dog...fine.

The problem is that < 20% of any given society are sociopaths (learned that in college) and in the mind of that sociopath, this is funny. Take my complaints on the Normandy game...and now tripple the threat....

4300 players
10% sociopaths
= 430 sociopaths

4300 players
%20% sociopaths
= 860 sociopaths

It's been confirmed that at least 2 people were arrested for shooting foreign objects/reballs/marbles at Skirmish's '07 Normandy. As far as I'm aware, one lost an eye. MANY were taken off the field, chrono'd at 350+ fps and several were removed for shooting 450+............

Now add THIS thing......

Ace24
08-06-2007, 12:26 PM
firing a .177 cal BB...steel or copper...is going to have SERIOUS affects on the target.

If it were just a matter of target shooting (like those full auto models at carnivals) and shooting out the "star" on a paper target...then it's a great thing. Taking out annoying pests like squirrels, bats and the occasional stray dog...fine.

The problem is that < 20% of any given society are sociopaths (learned that in college) and in the mind of that sociopath, this is funny. Take my complaints on the Normandy game...and now tripple the threat....

4300 players
10% sociopaths
= 430 sociopaths

4300 players
%20% sociopaths
= 860 sociopaths

It's been confirmed that at least 2 people were arrested for shooting foreign objects/reballs/marbles at Skirmish's '07 Normandy. As far as I'm aware, one lost an eye. MANY were taken off the field, chrono'd at 350+ fps and several were removed for shooting 450+............

Now add THIS thing......
Way to make me a tiddle bit scurred of the next Skirmish Scenario. :( Heh.

Hmm... If it fires airsoft, that could be a useful thing. Instead of having to buy an airsoft gun, you get one on your paintball gun that is much faster.

I still like the realism of my CO2 powered Wolfram PP7 replica BB gun... (it actually has recoil and is made by the same people that make the actual PP7. The slider that normally cocks the real gun is fully functional... so yes you can get "bitten" just like a real pistol. :D)

Oh and if it ever showes up at my field... I don't care if I get fired, I'm taking the guys/girls gun and breaking the barrel off over my knee, regardless of the gun type. :flame:

Nenkitsune
08-06-2007, 03:40 PM
At least on the site you must be 18 to order and in the faq/10 rules of shooting or some crap, they say NEVER shoot at someone and all person should wear SHOOTING glasses (not paintball masks)

Rules 10 and 11 of the faq (apparently they have an airsoft version or some crap)

10. Should I ever shoot a .177 cal Barrage Barrel™ at anyone?
NO! .177 cal. Barrage Barrels™ must not be shot at people as serious injury may result. Consult all directions for use and warnings included with your Barrage Barrel™ before using.

11. Should I ever shoot an Airsoft Barrage Barrel™ at anyone?
With much caution. While the velocities can be reduced using your velocity screw on your marker, you may not be able to reduce the velocity to safe levels. The airsoft variants of Barrage Barrel™ can fire with velocities in excess of 550fps. This is not safe for normal airsoft play. It is highly suggested that you check the velocity with a chronograph. As always, PLAY AT YOUR OWN RISK & AIM FOR SAFTEY!

from the 10 shooting rules
5. ANYONE SHOOTING OR NEAR A SHOOTER SHOULD WEAR SHOOTING GLASSES.
Also, all other persons should remain behind the shooter.

and a link to the conditions of use http://www.barragebarrel.com/index.php?main_page=conditions


so I'm not mad about it at all. But if I do see one I'll have to question the guy using it and kick him swiftly in the groin for doing something so dangerous.

however, with the 6mm version I believe there's 6mm paint, so as long as they use that, I don't care.

druid
08-06-2007, 05:33 PM
Nenk...it's illegal, immoral and unethical for me or any other cop to beat the bejezus out of someone for no apparent reason. Yet...it happens.

It's illegal to buy, sell or use narcotics without a prescription. Yet...it happens.

It's Illegal to look at nude pics of children. Yet...it happens.

It's illegal to shoot reballs/marbles from a paintball marker at a Skirmish game. Yet it CONTINUES to happen and people have lost their eyes because of it.

I could go on for days but that will suffice.

I don't care what their posted "rules" or "FAQs" say or what the claims of a waiver or disclaimer represent about ____, people find a way to do what they want with it. That disclaimer means **** to a sociopath...and only a sociopath would use it in a paintball game.

clickclicksplat
08-06-2007, 07:59 PM
What conceivable purpose could there be for this product? It's already been pointed out that it's useless for target practice due to the differences between BBs and paintballs... You certainly can't shoot it at people. Cool, I can shred a can... great... that serves what purpose?

I'd love to have a chat with the guy who thought that was a good idea.

118917
08-06-2007, 08:40 PM
all I know is theres gonna be lawsuits and paintball is going to suffer a lashing the likes of which it has never experienced.
I just hope I'm wrong...

newkid
08-07-2007, 05:08 AM
firing a .177 cal BB...steel or copper...is going to have SERIOUS affects on the target.

If it were just a matter of target shooting (like those full auto models at carnivals) and shooting out the "star" on a paper target...then it's a great thing. Taking out annoying pests like squirrels, bats and the occasional stray dog...fine.

The problem is that < 20% of any given society are sociopaths (learned that in college) and in the mind of that sociopath, this is funny. Take my complaints on the Normandy game...and now tripple the threat....

4300 players
10% sociopaths
= 430 sociopaths

4300 players
%20% sociopaths
= 860 sociopaths

It's been confirmed that at least 2 people were arrested for shooting foreign objects/reballs/marbles at Skirmish's '07 Normandy. As far as I'm aware, one lost an eye. MANY were taken off the field, chrono'd at 350+ fps and several were removed for shooting 450+............

Now add THIS thing......

druid speaks the truth

vikingshadow
08-07-2007, 06:36 AM
How many of you actually read the legal stuff when you download a program, but rather just hit accept and move on? How many of you, when you sign up for any online forum, actually read the rules before signing up? How many of you take the time to read ALL the instructions, every time, on an assignment you have? How many of you read the directions and FAQ on a shampoo bottle?

Yeah, now think about the FAQ and rules on this piece of "equipment." People are going to see this and say, "Cool! But they aren't talking to me," IF they read it. Most aren't even going to care about the stupid FAQ and rules.

Elfmaze
08-07-2007, 06:45 AM
Been thinking a bit more as its effectiveness as a bb crossover. Its very innefficient, it loads slow, and its probably loud.

you can build a strafer bb machine gun for about $100 and have 50X the destructive power. I have joined the ranks of useless unless useing it for airsoft crossover, but then the markers cycling comes back to that innefficient part.

Nenkitsune
08-07-2007, 09:53 PM
How many of you actually read the legal stuff when you download a program, but rather just hit accept and move on? How many of you, when you sign up for any online forum, actually read the rules before signing up? How many of you take the time to read ALL the instructions, every time, on an assignment you have? How many of you read the directions and FAQ on a shampoo bottle?

Yeah, now think about the FAQ and rules on this piece of "equipment." People are going to see this and say, "Cool! But they aren't talking to me," IF they read it. Most aren't even going to care about the stupid FAQ and rules.

I must be a psycho or something...I actually read rules and crap :(
I think I'm some sort of anomoly in this day and age...I've been told that I belong in an era where men treated all women with the utmost respect and stuck completly to the honor system without fail.....Friggin nice guy attitude hahaha.
to be honest, I've actually read the directions on the shampoo bottle...while i'm using it. And I tend to do it every day haha. same with assignment instructions. I actually read those at least 10 times before I start working. I read nearly every rule on a forum, besides the one when you sign up, unless it's a forum using a system i haven't used. crap like that. I also tend to skim through program installation stuff. damn my upbringing

Anyways, the only reason I could see this for, the bb's at least, is for people who need a bb gun for some reason (my dad bought one for pest control. We had pigeons out the wazoo living in our roof. Or just for general target practice. The 6mm version I can see for soemone with say, A mill sim tippy that wants to play with his airsoft friends, but doesn't want a new gun or some crap. Or who wants to sling some 6mm paint. It's not very practical though. More like one of those gimmick sort of things.

DotP
08-15-2007, 09:07 PM
Ya, wow. I do believe that the barrel is a threat to the sport of paintball. People have a hard enough time as it is accepting people shooting harmless balls of paint, much less steel BB's. And as soon as the news catches some teens riding around shooting BB's with paintball guns, the paintball community will take much of the flak. Especially if the target was people, animals, cars, or houses.
And BTW: Nenkitsune, you're not alone...