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Xyxyll
06-25-2007, 05:58 PM
X-Customs is extremely proud to present the X-Customs NV, the pinnacle of all ESP triggers.

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Introduction

The X-Customs NV is the result of eight long months of research and product development. With its innovative features and its ergonomically-inspired profile, the NV closes the gap between traditional Spyder trigger systems and high-end quality.

Features

- CNC Machined 6061 Aluminum, finished and anodized
- Dual ABEC-3 Certified Ball Bearing Pivot System
- Magnetic Return
- Eliminated Side-to-Side Slack
- Independent Front and Rear Slack Adjustability
- Ergonomically-Designed Profile with Contoured Edges
- Hall FX Kit – Ready
- Compatible with all ESP Trigger Frames (unsure of the AMG frame)

The X-Customs NV has a unique set of features strategically designed to enhance the performance of the ESP trigger system. Among these are a few key features worth noting:

Dual Ball Bearing Pivot System
This innovation accomplishes two very-remarkable improvements, the significant reduction of pivot friction and the elimination of side-to-side slack. With the NV’s dual ball-bearing setup, the trigger pull is noticeably smoother than its predecessors. This unique anti-friction sensation is a significant improvement over stock and is extremely competitive with high-end marker setups.

Improving side-to-side slack has historically been a key goal in most Spyder trigger designs, but few have succeeded like the X-Customs NV. Side-to-side slack, which once caused “sloppy” and “inconsistent” trigger pulls is now extinct. The X-Customs NV effortlessly travels only forward and backward.

Independent Front and Rear Slack Adjustability
2-point adjustability is a necessity for any competitive trigger setup. The X-Customs NV not only offers this adjustability but also provides a new way to adjust forward slack. In most current setups, front slack must be adjusted by removing the trigger frame, turning a screw, and reattaching the frame to the body (a guess-and-check process). The NV’s one-of-a-kind forward-slack adjustment point is located behind the trigger, allowing convenient and accurate adjustments.

Hall FX Kit – Ready
With a perfectly-sized magnet embedded in the backside, the X-Customs NV is the only trigger on the market that is directly compatible with the X-Customs Hall FX Kit. This reduces Hall FX installation time and eliminates any potential mishaps installing a magnet to a stock or aftermarket trigger.

Production Information

The first X-Customs NV triggers will be available in a BLACK POLISHED finish. Pricing and ordering information are available on the X-Customs website: http://www.x-customs.com. When ordering, please indicate in which Spyder the trigger will be installed so that the correct magnets may be included.

ETA for first shipment: AVAILABLE NOW!

SPYDER CUP PARTICIPANTS – X-Customs is offering an exclusive discount to all Spyder Cup participants! Check the website for more details.


Bundle Option

X-Customs will also be offering additional discounts on bundled orders. Check the website for more details.

Xyxyll
07-09-2007, 04:00 PM
Here are some discussions from other introduction threads that are worth repeating:

I'd like that trigger in silver. Does it work well with the magnet on the hall FX? (smooth surface for it to attach)

One of my prototypes is silver, and it definitely looks great. Silver will be one of the available colors after the first batch.

The trigger was developed at the same time as the Hall FX Kit, so they work perfectly together. In fact, the NV is the only trigger available that already has a magnet attached to its backside. The magnet sits flush with the backside of the trigger.

One thing I'm worried about, is how far away does the magnet have to be to not activate the switch?

As far as the trigger's position when firing the Hall FX, the NV fires the Hall FX Kit right near the Hall FX Kit housing itself... about the same place it would fire a regular-switched ESP frame. Non-NV triggers should also be approximately the same place but may activate the sensor from a little further away.

LOL, OneUp had waaaaay too much at a grad party today, LOL.

I think this entire setup between the hall FX kit and this trigger is absolutely awesome. The only thing I want to put out there is that I hope this trigger will eliminate all of that side to side slop that the stock triggers have. If it does, the spyders will finally have triggers that feel as nice as some of the higher end markers.

You already have the CADs and stuff for the normal NV trigger, just adapt them to fit the VS AND make a slightly different one. I love the triggers on my NME LE and my DM6. If you can make a VS trigger that's anything like either of them, it'd be one of the best triggers around. I'd buy one and I don't even own a VS yet.

The NV trigger when measured from the bottom of the tip, wobbles only 1mm from left to right. :D

Adapting it for a VS will be a little more complicated than it sounds, but I will begin working on one as soon as possible.

YEAH!!!!!! You guys came out with new stuff!!!!

'k a few things:

1. Make the SwiX, NV triggers and the Hall FX kit for VS series. As well as future products please!!!!

2. Please get info on whether the stuff can work on the AMG.

3. If everything works on the AMG, could I use all three products? (the triggers, microswitch and magnet kit)

4. Whats your next upgrade you make gonna be?

EDIT: 5. Will any of the products work on any other frame?


Great job though. Glad to see you guys making some new products.

1. At this time, neither the SwiX, NV, nor Hall FX Kit works for the VS series. A VS Hall FX Kit and VS NV are being seriously considered.

2. If someone is interested in verifying the AMG and purchases a NV, I will refund the purchase (upon return of the trigger) if it does not fit. I am 90% confident it will fit with no problems though.

3. If the NV is confirmed as fitting the AMG, all three products, the SwiX, NV, and Hall FX Kit will be compatible with the AMG. Currently both the SwiX and Hall FX Kits are 100% compatible with the AMG.

4. It takes quite a long time to bring a quality idea from concept to production, so I will not be releasing specific information regarding future upgrades from X-Customs. :)

5. As far as I know, the SwiX and Hall FX Kit are only 100% compatible with the Spyder ESP frames. My understanding is some Dragun frames may accept Spyder switches, but I would be cautious about installing a Hall FX Kit on one.

will the trigger work on a stock microswitch? or do we need to buy the kit along w/the trigger?

Yes it will. It will work on any Spyder microswitch or the Hall FX Kit.

Xyxyll
01-11-2008, 09:19 AM
Thread updated with new pictures. I am considering discontinuing the NV in lieu of other projects. This would mean that when this last batch is gone, well... it's gone. If anyone feels otherwise or wishes for a batch in a different color, let me know.

pb34
01-11-2008, 11:16 AM
You haven't though about making a batch for the MR series guns have you?

The Pumper
01-11-2008, 11:19 AM
damn.
thats so sexy. reminds me of the CP trigger.

Xyxyll
01-11-2008, 12:32 PM
You haven't though about making a batch for the MR series guns have you?

I may pursue a trigger compatible with the MR and VS frames, but this would entail complete redesign, prototyping, and production, which is quite an investment. If enough interest is genuinely received, I will consider it, but I cannot make any promises.


damn.
thats so sexy. reminds me of the CP trigger.

Thanks. It took only a few hours to design the front face, but preparing the rest of the trigger to match it aesthetically took months. :waytogo:

pb34
01-11-2008, 03:14 PM
Alright. I remember when I saw you at that black cat scenario event with that silver trigger. I knew it was a prototype for something!:D

Xyxyll
01-11-2008, 05:39 PM
Alright. I remember when I saw you at that black cat scenario event with that silver trigger. I knew it was a prototype for something!:D

:cool:

I don't know if you plan on making the trek, but Black Cat will be hosting another scenario game at Skyline Paintball (Strasburg, VA) the first weekend in April. I will definitely be there again.

pb34
01-11-2008, 05:59 PM
:cool:

I don't know if you plan on making the trek, but Black Cat will be hosting another scenario game at Skyline Paintball (Strasburg, VA) the first weekend in April. I will definitely be there again.

Possibly, I'm going on a cruise with my school either the first or second weekend in April not quite sure which. If I do end up going I'll let you know and we could meet up and you could show me some super secret X-Customs plans :p

Edit: Just checked it out on their website and it says the weekend of March 28th. So hopefully I'll be able to make it up!

kramernator
01-13-2008, 09:56 AM
wow, that looks sweet,
if you don't mind me asking......
what program do you use to design that? then how do you make it real, like, what company do you send the design to for them to make it?
whats does that company charge?

or is that way out of range for the average person who loves CAD programs?

kramernator
01-13-2008, 10:16 AM
ok, never mind, i looked at your site, i didn't realize that you were actually a business.

Xyxyll
01-13-2008, 10:45 AM
Possibly, I'm going on a cruise with my school either the first or second weekend in April not quite sure which. If I do end up going I'll let you know and we could meet up and you could show me some super secret X-Customs plans :p

Edit: Just checked it out on their website and it says the weekend of March 28th. So hopefully I'll be able to make it up!

Well this is upsetting.. I was originally told that the scenario game was scheduled for the following weekend (first weekend in April). I have a conflict on the 29th, which means I will not be attending the scenario game.


wow, that looks sweet,
if you don't mind me asking......
what program do you use to design that? then how do you make it real, like, what company do you send the design to for them to make it?
whats does that company charge?

or is that way out of range for the average person who loves CAD programs?

This is certainly not out of range for the average CAD'er, but it is quite expensive. It's all a matter of getting your design perfect the first time around (or close to it), finding a suitable CNC-capable machinist, and exporting your part files to a format that the machinist's software can read. You will typically find prototype costs ranging from $200-500 from CNC machine shops. Production runs are much cheaper but still do not leave much room for profit.

PM me if you wish to discuss this further.

kramernator
01-13-2008, 10:59 AM
^^^yeah that is a little steep for me (i was going for personal use)

when ordering (which i probably will in the near future) what does the "spyder cup - yes/no" option mean?

thanks for the info

oh, one more thing, when i buy your stuff, which trigger frame should i select, i have a sprint frame (superold)
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Xyxyll
01-13-2008, 11:25 AM
The Spyder Cup option is a promotion I was offering last year for participants in the 2007 Spyder Cup. The promotion is closed, but I haven't removed the drop-down box yet.

I haven't seen a Sprint frame in years... wow! The Sprint frame would fall under any of the Flash, AMG, E99, ESPRIT, Pre-'05 Imagine, or Electra drop-down options.

kramernator
01-13-2008, 11:44 AM
alright, thank you VERY MUCH Xyxyll

just out of curiosity, does anyone know what the activation weight would be on that sprint tigger? all i know is that it is pretty bad
the activation weight is measured by how much weight (in grams) it takes to set off the trigger, right, if so i can measure it myself

Xyxyll
01-13-2008, 11:48 AM
alright, thank you VERY MUCH Xyxyll

just out of curiosity, does anyone know what the activation weight would be on that sprint tigger? all i know is that it is pretty bad
the activation weight is measured by how much weight (in grams) it takes to set off the trigger, right, if so i can measure it myself

That's correct. The activation weight of the switch itself is rumored to be ~250g. This would be increased significantly if you use a return spring.

warbeak2099
08-29-2008, 07:35 AM
HOLY CRAP. You make an HES for Spyderframes??? I need this for my SpyderMag!!! Please tell me you'll be offering a package with this trigger and the HES kit. The second you have these triggers in blue, I'll be buying one along with the HES kit.