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jdrochell
01-27-2006, 10:34 PM
I've got a pilot ACS and I know that it is 13bps on full auto. I also know that the top of 19bps has to be reached in semi-auto mode.

Now, I'm thinking of getting a MR2 since I want a scenario type marker. However, I'm curious as to what the rate of fire is on the full auto mode of the MR2. I downloaded the manual but it does not specify about the rates of fire. I did read somewhere in the forum about someone talking about how it fires 25 bps in full auto.

I'm thinking of getting one, but I know most guns are fastest in semi auto mode and would assume the same would be true with the MR2.

SpudmanWP
01-28-2006, 09:38 AM
Well common sense says that if 25bps in full auto is ok, then if you can pull that in semi you should be ok.

WhatThaSmurf
01-28-2006, 12:25 PM
the 25 bps is semi-auto only
i think they just stuck with their standard 13 bps full auto rate, fa is for lazy people anyway

jdrochell
01-28-2006, 12:29 PM
Thanks for the answer smurf... Just what I wanted to know...

Voodoo27909
01-29-2006, 05:40 AM
I was under the impression after reading my manual that the 25 BPS was capable on Full Auto only.... (Good luck hitting 25 in Semi on any gun without electronic assistance, like ramping)

QRFleader
01-30-2006, 10:57 AM
I believe also that the 25bps is in full auto mode

PandaTruenoGTS
01-31-2006, 12:47 PM
its 13 bps.. had one..

Voodoo27909
02-01-2006, 11:52 PM
NOPE...G O T one, and im reading right now from the manual that 25BPS is in full auto mode only.

SpudmanWP
02-01-2006, 11:58 PM
...25BPS is in full auto mode only.

Well, who in their right mind thought anyone could pull off 25bps in TRUE semiautomatic mode?

PandaTruenoGTS
02-02-2006, 09:56 AM
NOPE...G O T one, and im reading right now from the manual that 25BPS is in full auto mode only.

yeah ok, no. Obviousely you don't know what 25bps sounds like cause it doesn't even come close. It's Standard 13bps full auto. Also I would like you to tell me where this so called place is in the manual that claims 25bps cause I am looking at it right now and there is no such claim (it can be found here: http://www.spyder.tv/section/support/manuals/mr2_front.pdf
and here:
http://www.spyder.tv/section/support/manuals/mr2_back.pdf)

PandaTruenoGTS
02-02-2006, 09:57 AM
Well, who in their right mind thought anyone could pull off 25bps in TRUE semiautomatic mode?

it can be done..

QRFleader
02-02-2006, 03:13 PM
Ive seen pro guys rattle of at amazing speed

Voodoo27909
02-03-2006, 10:18 PM
...You seem like a smart guy, Panda. Find it yourself.

MonkeyWiz
02-04-2006, 03:09 AM
I must ask you: Why 25BPS?
Considering an UZI goes 600rounds/minute (10rounds/sec) why would a paintballer need more than double the ROF?
How can you even afford that?

QRFleader
02-04-2006, 06:02 PM
Look at the M249 SAW it shoots 950 RPM, and believ me when the time is right its nice to fire that fast

Voodoo27909
02-04-2006, 07:06 PM
I have never, ever seen anyone able to pull off anything close to 25BPS without an electronic cheat...Pro or otherwise. I HAVE H E A R D many Ppl CLAIM to be able to do it. Most who know something about it will tell you that it simply is not possible.


PANDA.....It seems that you were half right about the manual. What I read did not actually say 25BPS in full auto mode (I went back and re-read it). My Bad. HOWEVER....It also DOES NOT say anything about being able to do it in Semi either. In fact, it gives no clue what so ever as to when the "Mystical" 25BPS is possible, other than saying that the marker is "Capable" of 25BPS. Your snip about me not knowing what 25BPS sounded like, and basically trying to come off as a bad azz wasnt necessary. Simply saying that you didnt think it was written like that would have been enough...I would have gone back and looked again, and admitted that I was wrong anyway. Relax

PandaTruenoGTS
02-05-2006, 02:38 AM
Hmm so because I said you obviousely didn't know what 25bps sounded like that makes me a "bad azz"? Yeah, ok. No I was simply making the assumption that you havn't ever heard what 25bps sounds like. I wasn't bashing you, merely stating that you must not have ever heard anything fire at that speed. Thanks for bashing me by making false acusations though, it really shows your maturity level.

On another note (if you can swallow your pride for 2 sec.) go to Qloader's website and you can watch thier video shooting 30bps. Then try to compare that to the full auto function on the MR2. Which by your theory would barely be faster.Then you will understand what I'm trying to say.

MonkeyWiz
02-05-2006, 10:31 AM
Look at the M249 SAW it shoots 950 RPM, and believ me when the time is right its nice to fire that fast

950RPM is still only 15-16BPS
I know there is guns out in the world that can outshoot a paintball marker.
A H&K MP5 shoots 650RPM (10-11BPS)
editThe M-16 actually makes 945-975RPM (15-17BPS)

Fact is that those BIG guns makes the military and police able to survive and win war with a third of the ROF a paintball marker can do.
In my oppinion, heavy BPS is the best way do disguise a bad aim...

timbertiger20
02-05-2006, 11:48 AM
Nah.......I use it to keep people down while my whole team moves around out in the wilderness. Funny thing is when it does shoot that fast......everyone concentrates on it. Oh and it works great on people who like to wipe :)

Voodoo27909
02-05-2006, 12:38 PM
...Just cant let it go, can you?

Richard Cranium


Im sure a smart guy like yourself can translate. Anyway, Im done....Keep dragging it out if you wish. Later

MonkeyWiz
02-05-2006, 01:09 PM
...Just cant let it go, can you?

I'm sorry if I offend anyone. It was not on purpose.
I really think it is kind of funny though.

Fire away, weekend warriors!

Voodoo27909
02-05-2006, 04:06 PM
...LOL

Nah...I wasnt nagging at you Monkey. I was taking a parting shot at Panda

QRFleader
02-05-2006, 11:15 PM
950RPM is still only 15-16BPS
I know there is guns out in the world that can outshoot a paintball marker.
A H&K MP5 shoots 650RPM (10-11BPS)
The M-16 actually makes 60RPM (1BPS)

check your reserch on the m16 man

950RPM is still only 15-16BPS

QRFleader
02-05-2006, 11:16 PM
sorry link dint work
http://world.guns.ru/assault/as18-e.htm

MonkeyWiz
02-05-2006, 11:40 PM
sorry link dint work
http://world.guns.ru/assault/as18-e.htm

I DID find it a bit odd.... :rolleyes:
The M-16 actually makes 945-975RPM (15-17BPS) would be the correct answer then...

Love the link! :p

QRFleader
02-06-2006, 09:54 AM
np, its a great site for weapon info

Pbller.Burger
02-16-2006, 06:11 PM
The chip automaticly read the bps creating the bps to ramp with the about coming into the ball drop. So if you have a q-loader i do belive that the gun will probably get around 23... to 25. I dont know for sure ,lets get a Spyder Man here and get the truth.

saf001
02-17-2006, 12:42 PM
Ok...My friend and I determined that on full auto the MR2's solenoid cycles 13 times per second...which means that if we had air hooked up to it and my Q-Loader on it, the gun will fire 13 balls per second. There are no photo eyes or any form of ramping, so my gun in its current state (right out of the box) can only fire 13 bps in full auto mode.

The way we tested this was to record the the sound of the gun firing on full auto for around 3 seconds. I then trimmed the audio file by deleting .5 seconds from the beginning of the clip and trimming the end of the clip so that we were left with 1.01 seconds of sound. I then decreased the speed of the audio by 8 times, turning our 1 second clip into an 8 second clip, so that I could count the number of times the solenoid cycles. I counted 13. Hence, my conclusions.

I could not attach the files due to file size, but here are links to the wav files on my website.

http://www.shsu.edu/~saf001/rate_of_fire/rate_of_fire.wav
http://www.shsu.edu/~saf001/rate_of_fire/rate_of_fire_slow.wav

davidthegr8
03-31-2006, 07:11 AM
owned

silverball
04-06-2006, 01:44 PM
So with my Diablo TSA Frontman (is comming, and i think it works in 13/14bps) i be capable to play in "burst" and "auto" mode?!?!?!? or i will be shooting in false?